very low ahead of the fiscal cliff. and even though as you mentioned sentiment is that it's very unlikely that we will fall off the cliff, the market as i said, likes to be optimistic. they like to play the bull. and if we do end up falling off the cliff, it doesn't just affect defense spending. corporate ceos across the board are simply not spending money. they're not expanding. you're seeing capital expersondy turs. we could fall into a recession if, in fact, we fall off a cliff. most people don't think we will. we're really seeing no true signs of congress beyond a headline here, a headline there. >> as we've seen in this market time and began, what goes down always goes back up when it comes to wall street. even if we do see big drops leading up to a deal. >> absolutely. just today we spoke with a chief strategist this morning on bloomberg who said the stocks look cheap here. you should get ahead of the fiscal cliff, which we're not going to fall off and buy. this is a buying opportunity. but it's a buying opportuni